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Arthur Fleck's biggest joke just might be the one he pulled on you. Joker director Todd Phillips recently made a few very interesting comments to the Los Angeles Times about the final scene of the movie comments that imply a bizarre truth about the story being presented. In case that's not warning enough, be advised that major spoilers for Joker lie ahead.
Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur is depicted early and often as having a tenuous grip on reality. The film eventually lets on that it's not always clear which events are fantasy and which are reality not to the audience, and presumably not to Arthur.
At the end, Arthur is seen with his psychiatrist in Arkham State Hospital after he has apparently killed his mother, incited a riot, shot Murray Franklin on live television, and escaped from police custody with the help of his clown-masked followers. As the shrink attempts to question him, Arthur simply laughs, telling her that she wouldn't get the joke. According to Phillips, it's this particular laugh that might hold a clue about the true nature of the story that just unfolded. He explained,
"That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely. There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur's affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he's trying to be 'one of the people,' which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he's in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that's his only genuine laugh in the movie."
Why is that, exactly? Well, perhaps because in the end, the joke is on us, the audience. Phillips has said that one of the main influences on his film was The Killing Joke, the acclaimed 1988 graphic novel in which the Joker says that if he must have a past, he, quote, "[prefers] it to be multiple choice." The director made a direct allusion to this dialogue in suggesting that as many fans have speculated Arthur Fleck might not necessarily be who we think he is. Phillips said,
"There are lots of ways you could look at this movie. You could look at it and go, 'This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.' I don't want to say what it is. But a lot of people I've shown it to have said, 'Oh, I get it he's just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It's this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.'"
Phillips went on to state outright that the man who will become Batman's nemesis may simply be in the background somewhere, watching all of these events play out. He said,
"Maybe Joaquin's character inspired the Joker. You don't really know. His last line in the movie is, 'You wouldn't get it.' There's a lot going on in there that's interesting."
Phoenix himself also explained that Joker can be seen not so much as a straightforward narrative, but as a series of suggestions. Keep watching the video to see that the Joker director finally explains that last crucial scene!
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Looper
Looper 5 days ago
How much of Joker do you think really happened in the movie? Which parts?
Jen G
Jen G Hour ago
I think none of the movie was true and was all just a scenerio of what if that joker thought was funny.
Alex Hernandez
Alex Hernandez 3 hours ago
@superdave31 thank you!!!!
Alex Hernandez
Alex Hernandez 3 hours ago
@Joseph Bernard nah
Todd Brown
Todd Brown 4 hours ago
@Tad Macudzinski dude...how many times have you seen this movie? That's some pretty good analysis.
Exozik
Exozik 5 hours ago
Nothing is real. We all imagined the film because it only really happened into our imagination.
Samaritan
Samaritan 3 minutes ago
There’s a world of difference between “it didn’t actually happen” and “it might not have actually happened”, especially when we’re talking about a character defined by the trait of not even knowing for sure what made him what he is, let alone giving a straight story to anyone else.
Emilio
Emilio 31 minute ago
Society: There's no movie in 2019 that can top Endgame DC: Send in the clown
Alex Fisher
Alex Fisher Hour ago
Could the man who killed Bruce’s parents be The Joker? Id prefer that it’s straightforward with Arthur being the Joker though
razumfrackle
razumfrackle Hour ago
I'd like to believe the Joker who murdered Sofie wasn't real, and the Joker who murdered Murray was, but I fear the opposite is more likely.
Just Call Me Sky
how did arthur "remember" and "look back" at the scene where bruce's parents died if he wasn't even there in that alley when they got killed? 🤔
2wheelpiracy
2wheelpiracy Hour ago
In America, the liberal left is primed and ready to follow a madman who will orchestrate anarchy on a mass scale. This has been repeated in history many times over. The end result being total oligarchy. The last scene is metaphorical of this situation.
Marz_00 •
Marz_00 • Hour ago
They made it so they can go multiple ways with the next movie if they decide to make one ... definitely is a movie u have to watch more than once
Will Yfjyfgjhfhjhf
Will Yfjyfgjhfhjhf 2 hours ago
I don’t give a fuck what anyone says, it was real.
Dennis Mozgovoy
Dennis Mozgovoy 3 hours ago
I don’t know why I simply hate someone’s attempts to interpret movie in one way or another, explain it and then put it in a “box” with label on it, I prefer it to be multiple interpretations including my favorite. Thanks everyone who worked on that masterpiece. Thank you!
Tanner Budge
Tanner Budge 3 hours ago
Why can’t this just be a true stand-alone movie? I hate all of these sequels and following the marvel bandwagon of a connected universe. I’m perfectly happy with Arthur’s story stopping and ending here. It would ruin it for me if they somehow tried to have him “influence” a new joker.
andrew webber
andrew webber 3 hours ago
The joker may have been telling the story to the psychiatrist at the hospital and being an unreliable narrator it could be difficult to say what is true or not. However at the same time it doesn’t mean all the events of the film are untrue. It may explains the playing up for sympathy we get throughout much of it, the way it presents the idea that the harsh way society treated him that caused his reaction.That could be the joke that is on us. Although the psychopathic nature of his actions are always too much for him to really get our sympathy.
Henry Lozano
Henry Lozano 3 hours ago
Joaquin IS the JOKER and don't tell me any differently Mr Phillips!
Haider Al-Araji
Haider Al-Araji 3 hours ago
What if, Athur Fleck is just a mentally ill guy who was inspired by a story from his cellmate, who’s name was the joker. That’s why he imagined himself in the Murray show in the first place, and how he had a relationship. If you look closely, how did he ended up touching bruse wayne in the Wayne palace? Where were the guards? How come on earth a late show host mock someguy doing other stand up show, that’s a career suicide. Too many questions regarding how easy things changed for him in so little time.
jaysways
jaysways 4 hours ago
IF Phillips says that Arthur is not the Joker and that his story (whether it’s real or not) had inspired another inmate at Arkham Asylum to become the ‘Joker’ which we might see in a future movie i will be so annoyed or if it’s a cliche ‘it was all just a dream’ movie. i believe if Phillips wants to make a sequel that he would want to keep Phoenix as his joker, as they would have to cast and go through auditions to find another person to play the joker which would be such a waste of time. so hopefully Phoenix did or will become the joker and either the ending of the JOKER was set up for Arthur to now become who he wants to be (joker) OR the events of the movie did happen and Arthur is already the JOKER waiting for his escape from Arkham Asylum.
Slim Retro
Slim Retro 4 hours ago
It being made up just makes the movie completely pointless. It didn't happen, So we can't learn from it. The point of the movie was to learn what happens when a mentally ill person is treated very poorly in a city filled with chaos and poverty. Now thanks to the ending, we can't learn anything. Because it was all arthur's imagination.
MCA der Negus
MCA der Negus 5 hours ago
If he is the real joker, wouldn't he be very old when Bruce grows up?
snowwhitewitch
snowwhitewitch 5 hours ago
I really loved that movie. I hope sone kind of Batman movie will follow. The DCEU just sucks.
Guillermo Olivares
Guillermo Olivares 5 hours ago
I only hope that a real scene that happens is the one when the joker kills murray
Young Pup X
Young Pup X 5 hours ago
Todd Philips saying a face off not happening, isn’t any giveaway. He doesn’t want to make an action superhero movie. He wants to make a drama
robman80808
robman80808 5 hours ago
In the sequel he comes out of the shower, and Victoria Principal reveals it was all her dream.
Kachi Fitness
Kachi Fitness 5 hours ago
Well this idea ruins the movie for me. I don't like this version.
alexxx ratatatataaa
All the moment when she thinks he does the right things and people exclamed for that it s in his mind..so i think the relation ,scene at the stand up comedy and his escape was in his mind
Chelsy Fuller
Chelsy Fuller 6 hours ago
Watching the Joker made me think about Dane Cooks 2008 stand up when he talked about “the weird guy at work” 😂. “thanks for the candy” 😂. If you haven’t seen it, it’s hilarious.
SuperFlyJ11
SuperFlyJ11 6 hours ago
So heath ledger is still the REAL JOKER!
Jacob Dix
Jacob Dix 6 hours ago
Isn’t he laughing at the thought of Bruce standing over his dead parents? Wasn’t that the entire point of that flashback during that scene?
Donald Blake
Donald Blake 7 hours ago
He wouldn't give it away.. This early anyway
ExPat 78
ExPat 78 7 hours ago
This movie has nothing to do with Batman. There is no Batman. There's no Gotham, except for in books. . Aurthur is an insane man in an institution, telling this cockamamie story to a therapist. He's just a nut that reads comic books.
Wey Cool
Wey Cool 7 hours ago
I don't get the low Rotten Tomatoes critic's review (68%). I watched the first weekend it came out. It has been a long time since I heard cheers/clapping right when the movie finished. It was quite a moment. The best scene of the movie is the "bloody smile" he pulled after waking up from a car crash. He finally felt "belonged" to the group of clown followers. It was the moment we realize Joker is born. And the ending is so good...
nombla1111
nombla1111 8 hours ago
No.
Maria Bourquin
Maria Bourquin 8 hours ago
I think Todd Phillips wrote and made a wonderful origin story to Cristopher Nolans Version of the Joker that saved Gotham City..........
SlackMartin
SlackMartin 8 hours ago
”Finally” we’re like 1 week after the premiere lol.
Michael S
Michael S 9 hours ago
F**k the fake mainstream media. Joker was AMAZING!
MIST
MIST 9 hours ago
At the end of the movie Arthur looks at the camera and sings That's life. I think there is a turning point, the joke is in us and what is our perception of the facts, each subjectivity, that is, each of us can establish a different variant that justifies and adjusts to the events. Everyone who sees this movie ends up asking at some point: "What is real?" You wouldn't understand, punchline, the curtain closes, the theater is empty.
Sheila Cone
Sheila Cone 10 hours ago
Yes, but, the movie is entirely from Arthur Fleck's perspective. So, to me, he is the Joker.
JMC The Director
JMC The Director 10 hours ago
No Todd Philips just told us we get to choose just like how the Joker has many origin stories we can decide how we want to Percieve this movie which is awesome! You can believe that it all happened or that it was all in his head we the audience get to choose how to view the movie which is amazing!
wassup dude have a nice day
after watching the Joker, I feel like Batman is the villain.
John Darcangelo
John Darcangelo 11 hours ago
Everyone thought they were getting a bad ass Joker origin story. He goes from standing on the car in front of hundreds of people to Arkham with no explanation. And the final line: "That's life, and as funny as it may seem, some people get there kicks, stomping on a dream"
AMC guy
AMC guy 11 hours ago
Nah i dont like that. I like to think that this is his origin story
Defias Pillager
Defias Pillager 12 hours ago
What is there to explain?
Zom Bee Nature
Zom Bee Nature 13 hours ago
I saw it last night without hearing ANYTHING about the movie beforehand, and toward the end I was thinking it was one of the best movies I have seen, not like anything else I ever saw. But at the end I got confused and didn't know _what_ to think! 😲
shinobu sensui
shinobu sensui 13 hours ago
This is a single movie..i know,but i hope robert pattinson's batman has relation with this joker movie..joker is a symbol like murray franklin said. And somehow a mental ilness kid is obsessed with arthur so he can be the next joker and fight batman with an equal age.or maybe arthur adopt a kid and make him as the next riddler.
Alexandre de Souza
Alexandre de Souza 14 hours ago
If most of the movie never really happened, nothing changes. It continues to be a fictional story.
Prima Mawitjere
Prima Mawitjere 14 hours ago
Fuck it just give us the damn sequel or else I will fly to US and murder the director..
Sao Saosson
Sao Saosson 15 hours ago
Joker is a real masterpiece and art
isha pandey
isha pandey 15 hours ago
I don't think this theory is true...the bloody footprints at the end explain everything.
Master Debater
Master Debater 16 hours ago
Masterful performance by Joaquin Phoenix. I disagree that it's a movie about Arthur slowly going insane though. Arthur was always insane; he simply began embracing his identity.
A M.
A M. 17 hours ago
Why would the director make the effort to show that his 'relationship' was a delusion if the rest of his life wasn't real either? It doesn't make sense. I think he fantasized the relationship, the first talk show appearance, the 'success' of his stand-up routine and maybe the adulation ftom the crowd. The rest was real imo.
DAHAKA, GUARDIAN OF THE TIMELINE
He laughed genuinely because all he wanted was some mental help, meds, and some recognition and the only way he truly got it was after flipping the city upside down, murdering three people, then admitting it on live television before shooting the host.
Diego
Diego 18 hours ago
Basically he's spitting in our faces that from a point, the movie was made up by Arthur's mind. He just laughs like that at Murray's show after killing him, at the police car, at the cops killing, and at the stair dancing.. basically after he becomes Joker, after killing Randall.. Could this mean that he was arrested after killing him? maybe he made up the "icon" or "narcissistic" part of the character as he talked with his therapyst.. God damn Todd Philips screwed me up
Ethereal MusicTherapy
This movie has been a mind fuck ever since the beginning. Love it! Keep it up. As for a sequel??? Hmmm....as long as it keeps us in suspense
n o v s k i
n o v s k i 19 hours ago
If its really multiple choice then I can't wait for more. Do IT NOW Hopefully I get to watch.. before someday that I accidently drown myself. I keep getting this thought that it's only great cuz of people's expectations like they are just throwing a bunch of things and showing it to people. Just Like. Letting people argue why Mona Lisa smile so great even tho in the other side of reality it's just a painting over one another and another making it great without *pure exact direction*. Like a masterpiece of pure coincidence or is it not a pure coincidence. Which is literally also one method and a definition of making *art*. "That's life" is literally The Killing Joke.
Keizer
Keizer 20 hours ago
This movie is a masterpiece and scares the all the snowflakes people !
mattp2real
mattp2real 20 hours ago
I just watched this movie a few hours ago and it made me wonder, what if he was in the Arkham the whole time and he imagined the whole thing (including the death of Bruce’s parents) and he laughs at the end because (insert flash to Bruce standing over his parents bodies), he realized that it was his imagination but Bruce’s parents died anyway; And the only person he killed was the doctor at the end, hence the bloody footsteps? I’m not sold on this theory because there was entirely too much other stuff that happened for it all to have been his imagination but that would be crazy if it was the case.
TI Pilot
TI Pilot 20 hours ago
he's real laugh at the end is cuz he became the joker. the movie is called joker, quit the bullshit of someone else can be the joker thats just bad. The movie is good but it aint that good, you can't pull the "it was all a joke" card yet you haven't earned it.
Yasmim
Yasmim 21 hour ago
I will stick with the idea that the last joke is us feeling miserable with the possibility of all of it being an illusion cause that means we wanted the chaos to be true and we are all more similar to Joker than we think. The joke is that "even you, psychologist listening to me, would be sad if I told you my history just to tell you in the end that it's a lie. You are as crazy as me" But it happened tho, I will NOT ACCEPT anything different from that
Andrew Suryali
Andrew Suryali 21 hour ago
The next scene after that scene makes it pretty clear that the Joker at the end of the movie IS the Joker. If the entire movie was a joke, then the joke isn't that Arthur Fleck wasn't the Joker, but that the Joker wasn't the Arthur Fleck that Arthur Fleck the Joker was recounting.
sid gupta
sid gupta 22 hours ago
“One day i will say what we actually thought when we were writing it “ . Are you crazy ? Fu**er we have paid to watch the movie . We want the truth now!!! If we haven’t understood something , it is the responsibility of the seller to make the buyer understand you piece of sh** .
Ian H
Ian H 23 hours ago
Should have ended it right at the crowd scene when he’s on the car.
Jacob Lee
Jacob Lee 23 hours ago
He said it might not be the joker what😲😲😲
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